phillipset al washington legalfoundation argued january decided june interest earned client funds held iolta accounts private property client takings clause purposes existence property interest determined reference existing rules understandings stemming independent source state law board regents state colleges roth agree texas law principal held iolta accounts client private property moreover general rule interest follows principal applies texas see webb fabulous pharmacies beckwith petitioners contention webb control examples trusts marital community property rules demonstrate texas fact adhere general rule rejected examples miss point webb exception texas interest follows principal rule firm basis traditional property law principles whereas petitioners point principles allowing owner funds temporarily deposited attorney trust account deprived interest funds generates petitioners contention interest follows principal texas allowed law assist cause argue texas law prohibits payment interest iolta funds rather interest actually earned funds private property principal owner regardless whether owner constitutionally cognizable interest anticipated generation interest funds interest accrue attaches property right incident ownership underlying principal petitioners final argument money transferred teajf private property iolta funds reasonably expected generate interest income plainly incorrect texas requirement client funds deposited iolta account interest might earned insufficient offset account costs service charges incurred obtaining funds placed iolta accounts generate interest generate net interest indicated physical item lack property status simply positive economic market value see loretto teleprompter manhattan catv iolta interest income may economically realizable value owner possession control disposition nonetheless valuable rights see hodel irving argument private property implicated iolta interest income value factually erroneous state nothing create value value created respondents funds federal government banking taxation regulations imposes costs value private citizens attempt exercise control waiver costs property remitted state hardly constitutes value event rejected similar argument webb supra pp leaves consideration remand question whether iolta funds taken state well amount compensation due respondents affirmed rehnquist delivered opinion scalia kennedy thomas joined souter filed dissenting opinion stevens ginsburg breyer joined breyer filed dissenting opinion stevens souter ginsburg joined notice opinion subject formal revision publication preliminary print reports readers requested notify reporter decisions washington typographical formal errors order corrections may made preliminary print goes press thomas phillips et al petitioners washington legal foundation etal writ certiorari appeals fifth circuit june chief justice rehnquist delivered opinion texas like district columbia adopted interest lawyers trust account iolta program programs certain client funds held attorney connection practice law deposited bank accounts interest income generated funds paid foundations finance legal services individuals question presented case whether interest earned client funds held iolta accounts private property either client attorney purposes takings clause fifth amendment hold property client course legal practice attorneys frequently required hold client funds various lengths time attorney generally held funds bearing federally insured checking accounts client trust funds individual attorney pooled accounts provided administrative convenience ready access funds bearing federal law prohibited federally insured banks savings loans paying interest checking accounts see lawyer held large sum trust client funds generally placed savings account interest generated outweighed inconvenience caused lack capabilities congress authorized creation negotiable order withdrawal accounts first time permitted federally insured banks pay interest demand deposits stat amended accounts permitted deposits consist solely funds entire beneficial interest held one individuals organization operated primarily religious philanthropic charitable educational political similar purposes operated profit corporations partnerships thus prohibited earning interest demand deposits see ibid however interpreting federal reserve board concluded corporate funds may held accounts funds held trust pursuant program charitable organizations exclusive right interest letter federal reserve board general counsel michael bradfield donald middlebrooks reprinted middlebrooks interest trust accounts program mechanics operation hereinafter federal reserve iolta letter beginning florida number moved quickly capitalize change banking regulations establishing iolta programs texas followed suit issued order codified article xi state bar rules providing attorney receives client funds nominal amount reasonably anticipated held short period time must place funds separate account iolta account tex state bar rule art xi rules texas rules governing operation texas equal access justice program client funds considered nominal amount held short period time attorney holding funds determines funds considered without regard funds clients may held attorney law firm professional corporation reasonably expected earn interest client interest might earned funds likely sufficient offset cost establishing maintaining account service charges accounting costs tax reporting costs incurred attempting obtain interest funds client interest earned funds deposited iolta account paid texas equal access justice foundation teaja nonprofit corporation established texas tex state bar rule art xi texas iolta rule teaja distributes funds nonprofit organizations primary purpose delivery legal services low income persons texas iolta rule internal revenue service attribute interest generated iolta account individual clients federal income tax purposes long client control decision whether place funds iolta account designate receive interest generated account see rev rul cum bull rev rul cum bull respondents washington legal foundation wlf michael mazzone william summers wlf law policy center members state texas opposed texas iolta program app mazzone attorney admitted practice texas maintains iolta account regularly deposits client funds id summers texas citizen businessman whose work requires make regular use services attorney january summers learned retainer deposited attorney held iolta account id february respondents filed suit frank newton official capacity chairman teajf nine justices texas respondents alleged inter alia texas iolta program violated rights fifth amendment taking property without compensation district granted summary judgment petitioners reasoning respondents property interest interest proceeds generated funds held iolta accounts washington legal foundation texas equal access justice foundation supp wd tex appeals fifth circuit reversed concluding interest accrues belongs owner principal washington legal foundation texas equal access justice foundation split whether interest income generated funds held iolta accounts private property purposes fifth amendment takings clause granted certiorari ii fifth amendment made applicable fourteenth amendment chicago chicago provides private property shall taken public use without compensation amdt constitution protects rather creates property interests existence property interest determined reference existing rules understandings stem independent source state law board regents state colleges roth agree texas law principal held iolta trust accounts private property client texas iolta rule discussing circumstances client funds must deposited iolta account texas bar rule lawyers shall hold funds belonging whole part clients separate lawyer property see also brief amicus curiae doubt client funds underlying iolta program property respondents deposited iolta account funds remain control private attorney freely available client upon demand principal iolta rules regulate use property yee escondido respondents contend state regulation manner attorneys hold manage client funds amounts taking private property question case whether interest iolta account private property client principal held rule interest follows principal established english common law since least beckford tobin ves eng ch nterest shall follow principal shadow body surprisingly rule become firmly embedded common law various appeals case two three judges texans held texas also follows rule citing sellers harris county tex interest earned deposit money owned parties lawsuit increment accrues money owners indeed webb fabulous pharmacies beckwith cited sellers opinion demonstrative general rule interest follows principal webb addressed florida statute providing interest accruing interpleader fund deposited registry deemed income office clerk circuit emphasis deleted id quoting stat appellant case filed interpleader action florida state tendered sum issue nearly million addition deducting interpleader fund fee services rendered clerk also retained interest income generated deposited funds held statute authorizing clerk confiscate earned interest violated takings clause explained state ipse dixit may transform private property public property without compensation simply legislatively abrogating traditional rule earnings fund incidents ownership fund property fund property see words least confiscatory regulations opposed regulating use property state may sidestep takings clause disavowing traditional property interests long recognized state law see id see also lucas south carolina coastal council petitioners nevertheless contend webb control texas fact adhere interest follows principal rule least elevated level absolute legal rule brief petitioners point several examples trusts marital community property rules texas law interest follow principal according petitioners iolta program simply another exception general rule find examples insufficient dispel presumption deference given views federal law state within jurisdiction bernhardt polygraphic america petitioners examples miss point decision webb texas exception trusts certain marital property general rule interest follows principal firm basis traditional property law principles permitting owner sum money distribute designated beneficiary interest income generated principal entirely consistent fundamental maxim property law owner property interest may dispose part interest sees fit general motors property denote group rights inhering citizen relation physical thing right dispose similarly texas rules governing distribution marital assets historical pedigree tracing back marital property laws adopted texas congress four years texas became independent republic mcclanahan community property law pp petitioners point background principles property law lucas supra lead one conclusion owner fund temporarily deposited attorney trust account may deprived interest fund generates petitioners contend interest follows principal incomplete explication texas rule petitioners reply brief petitioners explain interest follows principal texas interest allowed law fixed parties cavnar quality control parking tex fail see assists petitioners cause agree government great latitude regulating circumstances interest may earned explained andrus allard anticipated gains ha traditionally viewed less compelling interests petitioners argue payment interest client funds deposited attorney trust account allowed law texas rather argue interest actually earned funds held iolta accounts texas iolta rule private property owner principal however regardless whether owner principal constitutionally cognizable interest anticipated generation interest funds interest accrue attaches property right incident ownership underlying principal finally petitioners argue interest income transferred teaja private property client funds held iolta accounts reasonably expected generate interest income brief petitioners initial matter petitioners assertion client funds held iolta accounts expected generate interest income plainly incorrect express terms texas iolta rules texas iolta rule requires client funds held attorney deposited iolta account interest might earned insufficient offset cost establishing maintaining account service charges accounting costs tax reporting costs incurred attempting obtain interest funds client words client funds placed iolta accounts generate interest generate net interest whether client funds held iolta accounts generate net interest matter dispute written texas iolta program requires calculation net interest made without regard funds clients may held attorney texas iolta rule provision deny attorney traditional practice pooling funds several clients one account practice might produce net interest opening account client district petitioners agreed portion rule enforced attorney make necessary calculation basis pooled accounts petitioners made similar concession oral argument tr oral arg accept concession find avail petitioners never held physical item property simply lacks positive economic market value example loretto teleprompter manhattan catv held property right taken even infringement right arguably increased market value property issue id conclusion regard premised longstanding recognition property economic value see id also consists group rights owner exercises dominion physical thing right possess use dispose general motors supra interest income issue may economically realizable value owner possession control disposition nonetheless valuable rights inhere property see hodel irving noting right pass property valuable right government may seize rents received owner building simply prove costs incurred collecting rents exceed amount collected amicus curiae additionally argues private property implicated iolta program interest income generated funds held iolta accounts value brief amicus curiae disagree initial matter argument factually erroneous interest income transferred teaja product increased efficiency economies scale pooling funds government indeed noted state conceded oral argument attorney way pooling client funds earn interest client ethically obligated rather place funds iolta account interest income economically realizable iolta primarily federal government imposes tax reporting costs attempt exercise control interest funds generate see rev rul cum bull rev rul cum bull federal government prohibits corporations holding funds accounts interest paid corporation permits corporate funds held accounts interest paid teaja see federal reserve iolta letter words state nothing create value value created respondents funds federal government structuring banking taxation regulations imposes costs value private citizens attempt exercise control waiver costs property remitted state hardly constitutes value event rejected similar value argument webb state florida argued since clerk authority invest deposited funds statutorily created right interest income generated funds private property rejected argument explaining state mandated accrual interest mean state designate entitled assume ownership interest id different case interest income generated iolta accounts transferred state payment services rendered state id holding prohibit state imposing reasonable fees incurs generating allocating interest income see id cf sperry upholding imposition reasonable fee utilizing claims tribunal state indeed argue confiscation respondents interest income amounts fee services performed unlike webb state safeguarded invested deposited funds funds held iolta accounts managed entirely banks private attorneys iii sum hold interest income generated funds held iolta accounts private property owner principal express view whether funds taken state express opinion amount compensation due respondents leave issues addressed remand judgment appeals affirmed thomas phillips et al petitioners washington legal foundation etal writ certiorari appeals fifth circuit june justice souter justice stevens justice ginsburg justice breyer join dissenting holds interest income generated funds held iolta accounts property owner principal ante join today ruling limited enquiry led announce essentially abstract proposition even assumption abstraction proposition correct statement law may ultimately turn significance resolving real issue raised case whether interest lawyers trust account iolta scheme violates takings clause fifth amendment since sounder course vacate similarly limited judgment appeals fifth circuit remand broader enquiry outlined respectfully dissent recognizes three distinct issues implicated takings claim whether interest asserted plaintiff property whether government taken property whether plaintiff denied compensation taking ante careful address first questions ibid one fifth circuit ruled see washington legal foundation texas equal access justice foundation affirmative answer given fifth circuit question whether iolta interest attributable client funds client property essence proposition state law one source property interests entitled federal constitutional protection see board regents state colleges roth lucas south carolina coastal council instance relevant state law said embrace general principle property interest income follows ownership principal interest earned ante treats income generated client funds like income client derive directly method money management investment costs produced ante addressing issue property interest leaving questions taking compensation later day litigation respondents action appeals however postponed consideration salient fact relied upon petitioners contesting respondent fifth amendment claim respondent client effectively barred receiving net interest funds subject state iolta rule combination unchallenged federal banking statute regulation cfr separate unchallenged texas rule attorney discipline texas bar rules art rule unchallenged internal revenue service interpretations tax code rev rul cum bull rev rul cum bull argument view contrary one taken emphasize salient fact right view client cognizable property right iolta interest said rest different understanding scope general principle place state law also upon regulatory framework prevent client obtaining net interest funds subject iolta even iolta exist course federal state regulatory combination includes rule facially inconsistent general principle interest follows principal components regulatory structure even directly address question owns interest indeed obvious relevance regulatory provisions effects issues whether iolta results taking client property whether taking requires compensation yet route regulatory structure becomes relevant property issue well simply way may ultimately resolve taking compensation issues bears way resolve property issue turn within meaning fifth amendment iolta scheme taken property recognized today turn compensation taking zero practical consequence purposes fifth amendment recognizing client property right interest first place recognition inconsequential abstraction cf hooker burr contractual obligation impaired obligor injured extent penny thereby abstract rights unimportant significance regulatory structure issues taking compensation therefore considered today approaching property issue conjunction two others fact entirely faithful fifth amendment repeatedly said takings clause nothing bar government taking property taking without compensation see first english evangelical lutheran church glendale county los angeles williamson county regional planning hamilton bank johnson city thus makes good sense consider property connection compensable taking approach fifth amendment analysis avoid spending time might turn entirely theoretical matter also reduce risk placing undue emphasis existence generalized property right distort taking compensation analyses necessarily follow fifth amendment significance known say course resolve either taking compensation issues fifth circuit address rather determine whether either remaining issues might reasonably resolved respondents abstract property issue resolution favor return case appeals consider three issues resolving first suffice say taking compensation questions serious ones respondents first taking start penn central transp new york city guidance certain sorts facts particular importance supposed ad hoc factual enquiry whether government go ne far pennsylvania coal mahon attention paid nature government action economic impact degree interference reasonable expectations penn central supra enough note possible significance facts physical occupation seizure tangible property cf loretto teleprompter manhattan catv noting physical intrusion unusually serious takings context apparent economic impact since client net interest go pocket iolta iolta facts present neither anything resembling investment reason given apparent basis reasonably expecting obtain net interest certainly consider proposal respondents might make departure penn central approach vindicating fifth amendment circumstances application penn central bode well claimants like respondents second compensation requirement client inability earn net interest outside iolta due unchallenged federal state regulations raises serious questions entitlement compensation required convert taking wash transaction client standpoint compensation generally means full monetary equivalent property taken reynolds determining amount compensation taking seeks place claimant good position pecuniarily property taken acres monroe pike county land quoting olson calculating loss objectively independently claimant subjective valuation see kimball laundry thus deciding award needed place client respondent good position enjoyed without taking presumably look claimant putative property interest enjoyed absence iolta cf boston chamber commerce boston consequently measure required compensation claimant loss government public gain ibid rule obviously produce much benefit respondents suggested favor cognizable taking may occur even value enhanced supposed authority loretto supra case dealt physical occupation rested finding value actually enhanced held nothing legal consequences actual finding enhancement occurred today makes suggestion way respondents might deflect objection lost nothing observes notion property limited concept value ante makes point equating government seizure funds pocket failing business owner iolta disposition funds client never received neither equation relevance fifth amendment guarantee compensation immune question however issues taking compensation may someday adjudicated two things clear issues serious might resolved respondents happen today holding stand abstract proposition without significance application fifth amendment abstraction guaranteed harmless course abstract ruling matter much beyond time spent reaching law wary abstract legal propositions tradition practical one abstractions pose peculiar risks chief justice noted different related context danger cutting loose notion compensation notion property almota farmers elevator warehouse rehnquist dissenting see also inquiry property interest taken condemnor inquiry property interest shall valued identical ones divorced without seriously undermining number rules dealing law eminent domain one may wonder whether theoretical property analysis may skew resolution taking compensation issues follow also far today holding may unsettle accepted governmental prac tice elsewhere recognizing abstract property right interest actually party principal ante raise possibility takings challenges whenever government holds makes use principal private parties frequently example national government state engaged excessive tax withholding refund interest earned time withholding issuance refund number reasons unrelated recognition nonrecognition generalized property right interest tied questions takings compensation seems unlikely withholding practices violate fifth amendment nevertheless abstract ruling may encourage claims sort avoid dangers abstraction therefore vacate judgment appeals remand plenary fifth amendment consideration however property interest question considered abstract recast answer justice breyer done dissenting opinion join thomas phillips et al petitioners washington legal foundation etal writ certiorari appeals fifth circuit june justice breyer justice stevens justice souter justice ginsburg join dissenting question presented whether interest earned client trust funds funds earn interest absence special iolta program amounts property interest client lawyer purposes fifth amendment takings clause brief petitioners brief respondents see amdt shall private property taken public use without compensation question presented premised four assumptions first lawyers sometimes hold small amounts clients funds short periods time second federal tax banking rules regulations funds normally earn interest time third state iolta rules require lawyers place funds special account mixed funds earn interest fourth iolta rules require interest earned funds distributed groups represent individuals rather lawyers clients funds insofar factual circumstances raise fifth amendment question agree justice souter question whether texas requiring placing funds special iolta accounts depriving funds owners subsequently earned interest temporarily taken undoubtedly private property namely client funds principal without compensation answer appropriately framed question parties lower courts consider whether use principal fashion dictated iolta rules amounts deprivation property right whether government taking required compensating owner funds deprive funds owners interest might otherwise received appeals address latter question see ante souter dissenting although believe wrong separate takings clause analysis property rights stake analysis alleged deprivation considered question presented terms majority assumptions believe answer right one majority answer rests upon use legal truism namely interest follows principal application particular case namely webb fabulous pharmacies beckwith see ante view neither truism case answer hypothetical question addresses truism help question presented assumes circumstances differ dramatically interest ordinarily issue ordinarily principal capable generating interest whoever holds terms question must assume federal law client principal generate interest without iolta intervention say client expectation receiving interest without intervention one say iolta rules excluded prevented client use principal generate interest otherwise circumstances property right client iolta confiscat ed ante texas law taken client right use principal create benefit right client right keep client principal sterile right prevent principal put productive use others cf national bd ymca noting government deprivation property requiring compensation normally takes owner use owner may otherwise make property whatever cases may said constitutional status right said constitution forces state confer upon owner property produce anything value ownership fruits property property rendered fertile government lawful intervention ex rel powelson need pay value power eminent domain creates new york sage city need pay value added unifying parcels unification impracticable absent eminent domain twin city power require payment value created government create private claims public domain thus question whether interest earned result iolta rules earned upon otherwise barren client principal follows principal slogan interest follows principal answers question king diarmed legendary slogan every cow calf birrell seven lectures law history copyright books internal quotation marks omitted cf berkey third avenue railway cardozo metaphors law narrowly watched starting devices liberate thought end often enslaving webb fabulous pharmacies answer question presented state intervention principal case earned interest see nn state law required party deposit funds authorized hold funds account allowed claim interest well fee federal law ensured absence iolta intervention client principal earn nothing webb fabulous pharmacies holds state law places ordinary kind principal account interest state unjustifiably keeps takes private property public use without compensation holding says little kind principal principal otherwise barren cases find private interest property virtually economic value tell us fruits property belong property bears fruit intervention another ante citing loretto teleprompter manhattan catv hodel irving necessary find answer question presented analogies precedents provide land valuation cases example make clear value taken bounded lost taker gained boston chamber commerce boston opinion holmes see also state miller pecial value condemnor must excluded element market value water power principle suggests government must pay current value condemned land added value highway builds property creates also suggests condemnation say riparian rights order build dam must followed compensation rights value electricity dam later produce cf id twin city power supra appalachian elec power indeed one say electricity takings clause purposes owner private property absence lawful government taking property legal analogies directly address key assumption raised question presented namely absent iolta program interest earned consequently believe interest earned client private property respectfully dissent footnotes rule prof conduct alaska rule prof conduct sup rule ark rule prof conduct cal bus code supp rule prof conduct rule prof conduct del rule prof conduct rule prof conduct bar rule supp code responsibility rule dr haw sup rule idaho rule prof conduct rule prof conduct iowa code responsibility dr rule prof conduct sup rule la rule prof conduct code responsibility md bus occ code ann mass sup rule dr rule prof conduct rule prof conduct miss rule prof conduct mo rule prof conduct mont rule prof conduct neb sup trust acct rules sup rule petition new hampshire bar assn rules gen application rule prof conduct jud law supp rule prof conduct rule prof conduct ohio rev code ann rule prof conduct code responsibility dr rule prof conduct rule disciplinary enforcement rule prof conduct app rule rule prof conduct code responsibility dr interest lawyers trust accounts utah sup rules pt code responsibility dr rule prof conduct rule prof conduct sup rules wyo rule prof conduct ii indiana state implemented iolta program see indiana state bar assn petition ind express opinion reasonableness interpretation see chevron natural resources defense council cone state bar cert denied interest lawyers trust accounts utah petition new hampshire bar assn minnesota state bar assn interest trust accounts granted certiorari case answer question whether interest earned client trust funds held lawyers iolta accounts property interest client lawyer cognizable fifth amendmen constitution pet cert justice souter contends vacate judgment appeals improper answered question apart takings compensation questions petitioners however argue petition certiorari error fifth circuit address property question alone rule practice consider nly questions set forth petition fairly included therein improper us sua sponte raise address question answered justice souter freeman young civ app earnings fund incidents ownership fund property fund property internal quotation marks omitted pomona city school dist payne cal app bviously interest accretions belong owner vidal realtors westport harry bennett app long attached fund used profit profit impounded benefit attaching creditor subject ultimate disposition principal incident internal quotation marks omitted burnett brito app ny interest earned interpleaded deposited funds follows principal shall allocated whomever found entitled principal morton grove park dist american nat bank trust earnings funds deposited mere incident ownership fund coal mine workers ind nterest earnings must follow principal distributed ultimate owners fund unified school dist butler county board county commissioners butler county nterest follows principal pontiac school dist city pontiac generally understood applied principles interest merely incident principal must accounted state highway spainhower mo interest earned deposit special funds increment accruing thereto internal quotation marks omitted siroky richland county mont nterest earned belongs owner funds generated interest bordy smith neb settled clearly definitely whose money principal sum interest necessarily belongs person increment principal fund state ex rel board county commissioners montoya general rule interest accretion increment principal fund earning stuarco slafbro realty app div plaintiff entitled interest actually accrued despite absence agreement pay interest deposit precisely interest fact earned thereon mcmillan robeson county earnings fund mere incident ownership fund des moines mut hail cyclone ins assn steen ccruing interest follows principal board woodward pub schools hensely app interest earned becomes part principal fund generates university elliott nterest earned simply increment principal fund making interest property party owned principal fund board county commissioners county laramie laramie county school dist one wyo general interest merely incident principal fund making property party owning principal fund highest texas understood general principle property right interest always follows property principle way supports respondents iolta challenge see sellers harris county tex owner principal entitled interest less administrative accounting costs webb fabulous pharmacies beckwith point precisely dealt interest actually hands fiduciary net administrative expense unchallenged state federal rules clearly fall within general category relevant law defining property subject constitutional protection see board regents state colleges roth property interests created dimensions defined existing rules understandings stem independent source state law example respect determination whether government regulation goes far diminishing value claimant property repeatedly instructed parcel property first divided taken left purpose demonstrating taking former complete hence compensable concrete pipe products construction laborers pension trust southern see also penn central transp new york city narrow focus party right interest generated principal opinion might read albeit erroneously view mean accrued interest property right relevant question whether iolta effects taking